Curse

TheRaven · Feb 05, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

I still think the best solution is to create a new "trial region". Trial accounts load into the trial region instead of the American/European/Asian regions and they are stuck there. Allow them access to the international districts in case they want to team up with a seasoned player during their trial, but no place else.

roshanabey2 · Feb 05, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

/notsigned
Anet would never do it
new players would get a bad experience of GW it they can't whisper, and won't buy the game = Anet's pockets empty.
Newbies (notice i didn't use noobs) like help for experinced player

Day Trooper · Feb 05, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

How about letting users have a 'whisper-list': i.e. only those users they put on the list are allowed to whisper them. This would still allow trial accounts to whisper - but would alleviate the problem of gold-spammers doing their thang

In fact, an option could be added to allow users (a). whispers from anyone or (b). only allow whispers from those folks on their whisper-list.

Problem Solved!!!

Sparks Dawnbringer · Feb 05, 2008, 10:09 PM // 22:09

This is getting old and a pain in the netherworld. I don't know if this would work because the bots are smarter than GW. You would think they could trace them from their names. I've tried to ignore them but they just come back with another slightly differnt name.

Cale Roughstar · Feb 05, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

The problem is, that doesn't DO anything. The bot gets banned, but since it is using a trial account, it just instantly creates another one (ie, its written into the code, it takes a bot like 20 seconds to create a new account, if that). And then it is back.

Dont think that would be too much of a problem. ANET bans ip adresses, and all it would take is a 3 strikes (I dont actually care, just pick a number) rule. 3 strikes = ip ban. This should do a decent job deterring them. However, if they want to go and set up proxy ip's... well, I dunno.

HawkofStorms · Feb 06, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar

Dont think that would be too much of a problem. ANET bans ip adresses, and all it would take is a 3 strikes (I dont actually care, just pick a number) rule. 3 strikes = ip ban. This should do a decent job deterring them. However, if they want to go and set up proxy ip's... well, I dunno.

Bot sweet shops also change their router codes around every few hours to avoid being IP banned. by setting up proxys.
You see, all the things bots CAN DO to get around being banned, they do. It is about making money for them. If they don't do it, they won't have a job. A.net isn't doing everything they can do to stop it though. They don't have the same motivation.

Numa Pompilius · Feb 06, 2008, 09:35 AM // 09:35

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Why not just type /report and select the appropriate option: SPAMMING?

Because most of the time the whisperer is now hiding in another district, apparently using a "spotter bot" (or helper app/packet sniffer, I don't know) to harvest names to whisper.

Since he's in another district /report doesn't work, so you have to screenshot & submit a ticket at www.guildwars.com to report him.

And, again, I believe it already is so that trial accounts can't whisper. They can only use the ALL channel, ie they can spam but not whisper-spam.

Rushin Roulette · Feb 06, 2008, 11:43 AM // 11:43

Pfft, I just wisper back with an imaginary site

Spammer "BUy my gold from ww.gwscammers.ink"
Me"Buy your gold from my site www.mescamumoron.mok me much cheaper than your crap site"

Then continue with enter up arrow enter to resend the whisper untill I get bored with it, or until im finished reading the WTB/WTS lists.

tracco · Feb 06, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by MarxF

You just hating Whispers 'cause he's black :[

I agree, this is a very racist post. :P

In other news:
/signed.

newbie_of_doom · Feb 06, 2008, 12:25 PM // 12:25

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Originally Posted by MrSlayer

2) It would NOT affect the play for people using trial accounts to see if they want to play GW. They can still access the game, and try out the missions and quests. Being able to interact with the GW players is not something that will affect their trial time. Infact hell, it might even convince them that the £15 GW:Proph costs is actually worth

Like someone has to give you that code, you might want to whisper your friend? Don't say they can join your guild, cause some of them is actually High-End PvP who prefer not to have a member that is totally new to the game.

Don't get me wrong, I also hate the goldsellers. A better solution would be I.P. bans (if Anet isn't doing that yet) and hope for them not to use proxy.

pamelf · Feb 06, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54

/unsigned. It would make it stupidly difficult to team up with friends who are trying out the game to show them the ropes. i've done that with quite a few friends. What kind of impression does it make on new players if we make it almost imossible for them to team up with their friends already playing the game?

rohara · Feb 06, 2008, 01:42 PM // 13:42

yeah! let's change the whole whisper system just because of bots! we should also just remove monks from the game cuz bots use them to farm! /sarcasm

making the game unfriendly to new players surely isn't a solution. just report the bots and move on.

milkflopance · Feb 06, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by rohara

making the game unfriendly to new players surely isn't a solution. just report the bots and move on.

Unfortunately moving on isn't an option as another will just take their place. Why should the players who have payed for the game have to put up with getting spammed three times in a row by the same guy as soon as they log on? (which happened to me just now)

As long as the people using trial accounts are given a warning message explaining why they cant use the whisper feature, i'm all for it.

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Originally Posted by rohara

yeah! let's change the whole whisper system just because of bots!

The entire system doesn't need to be changed, just altered slightly. My suggestion is to only allow you to be contacted by a trial account if you have them on your friends list.

NamelessBeauty · Feb 06, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by EmptySkull

OOO, noes More grind. Dastardly Anet. They just getting ready to introduce a new title.
Legendary Reporter.

Rank 1 1000 reports- Rat
Rank 2 5000 reports- Tattle-tale
Rank 3 10000 reports- "Mommy, tell him to stop touching me"

It sucks. Anet will do something I'm sure. And if you are bothered you shouldreport.

/sign for this!!!!!!!!

You guys are so racism. Because you don't want to face some certain issues so you force those who play trial accounts don't have the right to even TALK? It's so bad. If you don't want to get whisper, go back to your own district. Why come to international district and complain? Jeez

Halmyr · Feb 06, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04

We could meet half way.

Trial acounts cannot send Wispers, but they can reply to one.

Player A and B: A is on a trial acount, B is a regulard player.

A cannot wisper to B, But be Can wisper to A

Once B started whispering to A, A can freely whisper to B.
---------------------------------------------------------

This would stop Gold Spammer, but not limit friends showing the game, you would just have to decide on a name for the one thats trying the game before hand.

EmptySkull · Feb 06, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

You hear that a lot, do you?

Umm that reference to siblings in the back seat of a car aggravating each other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

/sign for this!!!!!!!!

You guys are so racism. Because you don't want to face some certain issues so you force those who play trial accounts don't have the right to even TALK? It's so bad. If you don't want to get whisper, go back to your own district. Why come to international district and complain? Jeez

Well I have gotten the whispers in regular american and international. Just load in and it's insta-pm. It's got to do with just don't bother me with advertisements in my game. I didn't come here to be bothered with that. If I wanted ads I'd just watch TV.

rezabm · Feb 06, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

/signed for the "Allow whispers only from my friends" option. Really easy and elegant solution.

El Presidente · Feb 06, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by rezabm

/signed for the "Allow whispers only from my friends" option. Really easy and elegant solution.

/signed 'nuf said...

Darkobra · Feb 06, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

/sign for this!!!!!!!!

You guys are so racism. Because you don't want to face some certain issues so you force those who play trial accounts don't have the right to even TALK? It's so bad. If you don't want to get whisper, go back to your own district. Why come to international district and complain? Jeez

1. It's "racist."
2. I wish you were on a trial account.
3. I'm a Scotsman on a European district getting these whispers. Where else should I be, my darling of great intellect?

Destro Maniak · Feb 06, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Anguish

I understand gold sellers are annoying, but it's not your problem. They shouldn't be able to ruin the gameplay, even for those who haven't actually bought the game yet and if they only want to try it out.

You could as well say "Trail accounts aren't allowed to choose other profession than a *Insert your favorite/least favorite* profession here and they shouldn't be expressing their opinions/teaming up with other people/trade with other people"

SS and report.
SS and report.
SS and report.
Repeat.

is this a joke who is going to bother go the support site leave a ticket, upload a picture. Thats not cool